In-reply-to » One of the problems I have with changing the way the "Discover" view works whilst at the same time keeping it "clean" (depending on who you talk to) is the behaviour between "Timeline" (what you follow explicitly) and "Discover" (a view into the pod's cache). See attached, where I by default prefer a "collapsed" view (hiding replies). The default behaviour for Discover (no controls) is "everything".

Maybe some kind of option that when enabled will collapse multiple posts from the same feed and only show the top most recent one, with some kind of UI/UX that indicate ā€œN more todayā€¦ā€?

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In-reply-to » One of the problems I have with changing the way the "Discover" view works whilst at the same time keeping it "clean" (depending on who you talk to) is the behaviour between "Timeline" (what you follow explicitly) and "Discover" (a view into the pod's cache). See attached, where I by default prefer a "collapsed" view (hiding replies). The default behaviour for Discover (no controls) is "everything".

Iā€™d also be very interested to hear what some other users of yarnd have to say, sadly there are only a handful of pods around that Iā€™m aware of and/or that peer with my pod (twtxt.net) šŸ˜¢

Maybe Yarn.social/Twtxt has become boring or too niche? šŸ¤” Anyway cc @eldersnake@yarn.andrewjvpowell.com @xuu@txt.sour.is @stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no @abucci@anthony.buc.ci

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In-reply-to » One of the problems I have with changing the way the "Discover" view works whilst at the same time keeping it "clean" (depending on who you talk to) is the behaviour between "Timeline" (what you follow explicitly) and "Discover" (a view into the pod's cache). See attached, where I by default prefer a "collapsed" view (hiding replies). The default behaviour for Discover (no controls) is "everything".

Another feature as mentioned in #iq4rusa is using filters on the Timeline and/or Discover views. One of the most common ā€œworkflowsā€ I use is to go to ā€œDiscoverā€ and use the ā€œWithout repliesā€ and ā€œHide my postsā€ filters to see if thereā€™s anything new and interesting in my podā€™s cache I havenā€™t seen before or maybe could reply to (or not).

Of course as Iā€™ve locked down registrations on my pod anyway (have kept it locked down now for months) due to SPAM accounts and bots just creating rubbish accounts/feeds, this workflow may no longer be all that useful? hmmm šŸ§

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Hah šŸ¤£ @dfaria@twtxt.net Your @dfaria.eu@dfaria.eu feed really does consume about >50% of a ā€œDiscoverā€ search with filters ā€œWithout repliesā€ and ā€œHide my postsā€. šŸ¤£ 36/2 = 18 at 25 Twts per page, thatā€™s about ~72% of the search/view real estate youā€™re taking up! wow šŸ¤© ā€“ Iā€™d be very interested to hear what ideas you have to improve this? Those search filters were created so you could sift through either your own Timeline or the Discover view easily.

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In-reply-to » One of the problems I have with changing the way the "Discover" view works whilst at the same time keeping it "clean" (depending on who you talk to) is the behaviour between "Timeline" (what you follow explicitly) and "Discover" (a view into the pod's cache). See attached, where I by default prefer a "collapsed" view (hiding replies). The default behaviour for Discover (no controls) is "everything".

One thing to be clear about here is that it was never my intention for a podā€™s ā€œfront pageā€ (Discover view when not logged in) to be any kind of ā€œlistingā€ or ā€œadvertisingā€ or such. That was completely unintentional. If this is expected somehow, we should probably discuss that too more seriously and discuss its merits, and if it can be support, should be supported, or if thereā€™s a different solution entirely? For example. there is the search engine which could show a global feed/timeline view, albeit the domain could be something different.

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In-reply-to » One of the problems I have with changing the way the "Discover" view works whilst at the same time keeping it "clean" (depending on who you talk to) is the behaviour between "Timeline" (what you follow explicitly) and "Discover" (a view into the pod's cache). See attached, where I by default prefer a "collapsed" view (hiding replies). The default behaviour for Discover (no controls) is "everything".

Iā€™d like to hear some ideas that fix or improve the signal / noise ratio for all users and even benefits non-users (anonymous users just hitting a podā€™s index page, which is the discover view)

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In-reply-to » One of the problems I have with changing the way the "Discover" view works whilst at the same time keeping it "clean" (depending on who you talk to) is the behaviour between "Timeline" (what you follow explicitly) and "Discover" (a view into the pod's cache). See attached, where I by default prefer a "collapsed" view (hiding replies). The default behaviour for Discover (no controls) is "everything".

Thereā€™s also a pod-level setting (admins) that control what the ā€œDiscoverā€ (or front page if youā€™re not logged in) display:

This is either:

  • Local posts only (local to the pod)
  • All posts in the podā€™s cache

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One of the problems I have with changing the way the ā€œDiscoverā€ view works whilst at the same time keeping it ā€œcleanā€ (depending on who you talk to) is the behaviour between ā€œTimelineā€ (what you follow explicitly) and ā€œDiscoverā€ (a view into the podā€™s cache). See attached, where I by default prefer a ā€œcollapsedā€ view (hiding replies). The default behaviour for Discover (no controls) is ā€œeverythingā€.

The reason I bring this up is that part of my ā€œworkflowā€ has become to occasionally use the ā€œDiscoverā€ view to see if Iā€™ve missed any ā€œin-betweenā€ replies that often happen, find new interesting folks to follow and/or interact with, etc.

Changing this to anything but the current behaviour would break this flow for me šŸ˜¢

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In-reply-to » It's kinda quiet in here today!

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com here as in, here? Itā€™s a quarter to 22:00 here, and after a rather tiresome day I am trying to rest, while alternating with folding freshly washed and dried clothes. Quiet indeed! šŸ˜…

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In-reply-to » @prologic isnā€™t it evident? It surprises me you need to ask! šŸ˜‚

To expand on this, Lyse is the only person I know to send in code contributions with a full test suite. Thatā€™s awesome.

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In-reply-to » @lyse Ah, thanks for letting me know about the typo. šŸ˜…

Looks like thereā€™s not a lot of fancy magical stuff:

There is, however, a DosKillThread() function, which, as far as I know, does not exist on POSIX. šŸ¤” You can only send a signal to a POSIX thread and then itā€™ll hopefully end some day, right?

Killing threads is probably a bad idea, though. Who knows which state itā€™ll leave behind. Itā€™s not like a process which will be properly cleaned up by the OS.

I think Iā€™ll leave it as is. šŸ™‚

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In-reply-to » Executing all tests of the online registrations I'm building for the scouts takes now 70 seconds. Initializing a new SQLite database in RAM and creating all the tables for each test case sums up and takes its time. During development cycles I more often resort to the -run flag for go test to specify only one area of tests to be executed. Much more fun this way to quickly go back to writing code.

@prologic@twtxt.net isnā€™t it evident? It surprises me you need to ask! šŸ˜‚

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In-reply-to » @bender You don't know me and you're already making arbitrary judgments about me. I only got upset because they didn't warn me that they were going to block my domain. Nobody likes being canceled without warning. There were other civilized ways of letting me know that there was a problem with my domain instead of blocking it unilaterally. Bye-bye!

@dfaria@twtxt.net plunk.

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In-reply-to » @bender You don't know me and you're already making arbitrary judgments about me. I only got upset because they didn't warn me that they were going to block my domain. Nobody likes being canceled without warning. There were other civilized ways of letting me know that there was a problem with my domain instead of blocking it unilaterally. Bye-bye!

@dfaria@twtxt.net you are not who you say you are, you are who you show to be. You demonstrated a certain lack of levelled engagement, and sound reasoning; you were borderline hysterical. All qualities everyone should have, even more so someone who has chosen the teaching path.

This is not a train terminal. No need to give so many warnings about leaving, so many ā€œbye-byesā€. If thatā€™s your intention, just leave.

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In-reply-to » Been clearing out my pod a bit and blocking unwanted domains that are basically either a) just noise and/or b) are just 1-way (whose authors never reply or are otherwise unaware of the larger ecosystem)

@dfaria@twtxt.net Appreciate this šŸ‘Œ Right now the algorithm is quite dumb ā€“ and Iā€™d also hate to develop any algorithm that abuses any data from users. So definately needs to be things like:

  • one post per day per domain
  • or latest post per domain

etc/./

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