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In-reply-to » Just throwing this out there, but does the edit, delete and reply feature work for any of you, through the website? I can only Yarn. Trying to do those other actions, generates a popup, asking me if I trust some # URL thing. Confirming it refreshes the site, without doing the thing.

@bender@twtxt.net I barely used it myself, I get why we built it (link verification), but I’d rather just keep the other feature that strips tracking params on links.

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In-reply-to » Just throwing this out there, but does the edit, delete and reply feature work for any of you, through the website? I can only Yarn. Trying to do those other actions, generates a popup, asking me if I trust some # URL thing. Confirming it refreshes the site, without doing the thing.

@thecanine@twtxt.net I think I might just remove this feature entirely. What do you think? The link verification think that is.

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In-reply-to » Just throwing this out there, but does the edit, delete and reply feature work for any of you, through the website? I can only Yarn. Trying to do those other actions, generates a popup, asking me if I trust some # URL thing. Confirming it refreshes the site, without doing the thing.

@thecanine@twtxt.net Uggh no, that’s not right. That seems like a bug with the external ink verification feature. Can you go into your Settings and turn that off and try again? 🙏

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In-reply-to » i'm so glad i gave up christianity. i might be a little less glad when i get purged, but at least i won't be doing the purging. jesus of nazareth has some chill teachings, but the whole thing is poisoned by the actual history of the religion. genocide, book burnings, and ethnic cleansing are not exactly noble teachings.

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org Okay you are right. I’m not being very specific, but intentionally very broad and my statement is generalized that’s true. There are so many examples and issues to talk about, if we did, we’d be here a while 😅 Let’s just agree that we both agree on extremism not really being a good thing and leave it at that 🤣

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In-reply-to » @codebuzz I have some shell scripts that handle some of the log formatting details, but I mostly write my mesages by hand. Lately I've been browsing twtxt.net since they aggregate most of the known network. I have a couple of demo aggregators sitting around, but I'm in the middle of some infra rebuilds so a lot of my services are offline rn. They're both built on a simple social graph analysis that extracts urls for your direct follows the follows listed on each of those feeds (friend-of-a-friend replication). certain formatting operations are awkward with my setup, so I may write an app of some kind in the future. likely gemini-based, but I have a number of projects ahead of that one in the queue.

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl It currently takes my yarnd pod here around ~2m on average to fetch, process and cache ~700 feeds.

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In-reply-to » Hey, @ I know. Just wondering the kind of apps or software and how you all stay up to date in conversations. Is it through webmentions?

As @aelaraji@aelaraji.com points out, this @<bender bender@twtxt.net> is currently wrong. The 2nd part of a mention is currently required to be a full absolute URI.

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In-reply-to » Hey, @ I know. Just wondering the kind of apps or software and how you all stay up to date in conversations. Is it through webmentions?

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl Here you go:

$ bat https://twtxt.net/twt/dn2zlga | jq '.'
{
  "twter": {
    "nick": "Codebuzz",
    "uri": "https://www.codebuzz.nl/twtxt.txt",
    "avatar": "https://www.codebuzz.nl/twtxt-avatar-800.jpg"
  },
  "text": "(#q5rg3ea) Hey, @<bender bender@twtxt.net> I know. Just wondering the kind of apps or software and how you all stay up to date in conversations. Is it through webmentions?",
  "created": "2024-10-30T22:12:24Z",
  "markdownText": "(#q5rg3ea) Hey, @<bender bender@twtxt.net> I know. Just wondering the kind of apps or software and how you all stay up to date in conversations. Is it through webmentions?",
  "hash": "dn2zlga",
  "tags": [
    "q5rg3ea"
  ],
  "subject": "(#q5rg3ea)",
  "mentions": [],
  "links": []
}

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In-reply-to » Just throwing this out there, but does the edit, delete and reply feature work for any of you, through the website? I can only Yarn. Trying to do those other actions, generates a popup, asking me if I trust some # URL thing. Confirming it refreshes the site, without doing the thing.

@thecanine@twtxt.net It works. What’s this pop up you’re seeing?

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In-reply-to » @codebuzz I have some shell scripts that handle some of the log formatting details, but I mostly write my mesages by hand. Lately I've been browsing twtxt.net since they aggregate most of the known network. I have a couple of demo aggregators sitting around, but I'm in the middle of some infra rebuilds so a lot of my services are offline rn. They're both built on a simple social graph analysis that extracts urls for your direct follows the follows listed on each of those feeds (friend-of-a-friend replication). certain formatting operations are awkward with my setup, so I may write an app of some kind in the future. likely gemini-based, but I have a number of projects ahead of that one in the queue.

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org Good enough 😅 LMK if I can help in any way then, what I built isn’t perfect, but the crawler is able to crawl the entire space in ~15m or so (every day)

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In-reply-to » @codebuzz I have some shell scripts that handle some of the log formatting details, but I mostly write my mesages by hand. Lately I've been browsing twtxt.net since they aggregate most of the known network. I have a couple of demo aggregators sitting around, but I'm in the middle of some infra rebuilds so a lot of my services are offline rn. They're both built on a simple social graph analysis that extracts urls for your direct follows the follows listed on each of those feeds (friend-of-a-friend replication). certain formatting operations are awkward with my setup, so I may write an app of some kind in the future. likely gemini-based, but I have a number of projects ahead of that one in the queue.

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org The reason I ask is that I maintain the Twtxt search engine and crawler service that basically does exactly this, so I’m curious what you’re trying to solve by doing this yourself? Not that that’s a bad idea. I just want to understand what you are trying to achieve. 🤗

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In-reply-to » i'm so glad i gave up christianity. i might be a little less glad when i get purged, but at least i won't be doing the purging. jesus of nazareth has some chill teachings, but the whole thing is poisoned by the actual history of the religion. genocide, book burnings, and ethnic cleansing are not exactly noble teachings.

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org OK fine to be more specific. The problem I have with both religion and politics is they both often influence people or groups of people to either extremes.

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In-reply-to » i'm so glad i gave up christianity. i might be a little less glad when i get purged, but at least i won't be doing the purging. jesus of nazareth has some chill teachings, but the whole thing is poisoned by the actual history of the religion. genocide, book burnings, and ethnic cleansing are not exactly noble teachings.

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org I agree religion in and of itself is about as bad as politics in my view.

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In-reply-to » @codebuzz I have some shell scripts that handle some of the log formatting details, but I mostly write my mesages by hand. Lately I've been browsing twtxt.net since they aggregate most of the known network. I have a couple of demo aggregators sitting around, but I'm in the middle of some infra rebuilds so a lot of my services are offline rn. They're both built on a simple social graph analysis that extracts urls for your direct follows the follows listed on each of those feeds (friend-of-a-friend replication). certain formatting operations are awkward with my setup, so I may write an app of some kind in the future. likely gemini-based, but I have a number of projects ahead of that one in the queue.

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org This is largely by accident and not on purpose:

Lately I’ve been browsing twtxt.net since they aggregate most of the known network

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In-reply-to » @codebuzz I have some shell scripts that handle some of the log formatting details, but I mostly write my mesages by hand. Lately I've been browsing twtxt.net since they aggregate most of the known network. I have a couple of demo aggregators sitting around, but I'm in the middle of some infra rebuilds so a lot of my services are offline rn. They're both built on a simple social graph analysis that extracts urls for your direct follows the follows listed on each of those feeds (friend-of-a-friend replication). certain formatting operations are awkward with my setup, so I may write an app of some kind in the future. likely gemini-based, but I have a number of projects ahead of that one in the queue.

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org what problem does building a social graph solve?

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In-reply-to » @prologic I'm not a yarnd user, so it doesn't matter a whole lot to me, but FWIW I'm not especially keen on changing how I format my twts to work around yarnd's quirks.

Alternatively, if you prefer yarnd to pretty-print all twts nicely, even ones from simpler clients, that’s fine too and you don’t need to change anything. My ¼ -> ¼ thing is nothing more than a minor irritation which probably isn’t worth overthinking.

Yeah I’ve closed the PR, I just wanted to write it up and see what we all thought. Much easier to talk to a concrete spec proposal sometimes. I realised as I was writing it too that it wasn’t really going to achieve much in practise. I think we all agree 👍

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In-reply-to » @prologic I'm not a yarnd user, so it doesn't matter a whole lot to me, but FWIW I'm not especially keen on changing how I format my twts to work around yarnd's quirks.

What’s wrong with my original suggestion of doing the transformation before the text hits the twtxt.txt file? @prologic, I think it would achieve what you are trying to achieve with this content-type thing: if someone writes ¼ on a yarnd instance or any other client that wants to do this, it would get transformed, and other clients simply wouldn’t do the transformation. Every client that supports displaying unicode characters, including Jenny, would then display ¼ as ¼.

So many clients do client-side transformation already, mostly in the form of @-mentions. e.g: If I @falsifian@www.falsifian.org mention you, that gets transformed into the full proper Twtxt mention syntax. We could in theory transform other things too, but I see little value in doing so? 🤔 – Also it’s probably more a “Client” recommendation anyway at that point right?

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In-reply-to » @prologic I'm not a yarnd user, so it doesn't matter a whole lot to me, but FWIW I'm not especially keen on changing how I format my twts to work around yarnd's quirks.

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org Only that this rendering behavior comes from yarnd’s Markdown parser library that is used:

What has text/markdown got to do with this? I don’t think Markdown says anything about replacing ¼ with ¼, or other similar transformations. It’s not needed, because ¼ is already a unicode character that can simply be directly inserted into the text file.

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