↳ In-reply-to » @retrocrash So... About these other self-host(er) communities you speak of... Where do we find them, who do we talk to? 🤔

Okay to bring this back on topic. The reason I said all the above, is because I see the cloud hosting crap as a similar problem.

I think really we’re stuck with them and their vendor locked, restricted, marketplace centric platforms. But we can minimize the lockin we use.

Make sure you only use VM’s. Don’t use any of their cloud databases, build, pipelines, kubernetes, containers, etc. Just use, simple, basic, abundant virtual machines that can be portable to other cloud companies.