Well I figured out with moto E6s help on www, to change my settings for charge cord to FTP file transfer
and transfer brand new files, thanks to my Son for this gift.
Soooā¦ It turns out I can make a very quick ān dirty āWeb Browserā using this nifty webview library š š· 
(#s7u5gmq) all I can remember is that when I opened the link it had a rather green branding/theme to itā¦
A few days ago I posted about signal being one of the only e2e encrypted messaging apps that I trust and it happens to be convenient for most people to use without being too technically minded. Someone suggested in a reply that there was an alternative based on the same protocol that was also open sauce that used the tor network as a broker. Can anyone remind me of what that was?
@felixp7 (#r3ztadq) Let me know if it does! I might hack on it a few more hours to see if I can iron out any other quirks or bugs
@prologic @felixp7 (#fo5xm2a) Apparently it is open source -> https://github.com/brave/brave-browser
@prologic (#r3ztadq) So people still start browser engines from scratch, how cool is that. I wonder if it supports my sites better than the HTML widget in Qt5.
@felixp7 (#fo5xm2a) I heart / read that too, but not sure from whereā¦ Any chance we can dig it up and do some independent investigation to uncover the truth? Is it even open source?
@prologic (#fo5xm2a) Never tried it either. I hear itās the exact opposite of what they claim: a piece of spyware.
Nothing Is Totally Safe ā£ https://dilbert.com/strip/2020-10-23
@felixp7 What do you think about the Brave Web Browser? (I havenāt tried it):
The Brave browser is a fast, private and secure web browser for PC, Mac and mobile. Download now to enjoy a faster ad-free browsing experience that saves ā¦
(#r3ztadq) I cannot find pre-built binaries for Links2 or Dilllo or Homebrew formulae š¢ (
Iām lazy_)
Hah speaking of cross-platform Web Browsersā¦ Managed to get this to build successfully on my macOS dev machine! š š· 
(#kbibs7q) although to be fair itās been that many years since Iāve used Linux on the desktop that things may have changedā¦ Iām not sure they are š¤·āāļø
@felixp7 (#kbibs7q) although I do have to make sure that they run OK on Mac iOS thatās not as my primary desktop operating system these days has canonical the company and a Ubuntu l successfully destroyed the only decent accessibility on Linux for a vision impaired/blind person š„
@felixp7 (#kbibs7q) Thanks for the reminders š iāll install one more of these browsers and make sure that the Twt.social web app works in them š
@prologic (#kbibs7q) Links 2 can do images. Dillo can do both images and basic CSS. Even w3m supports images with a plugin, in a terminal emulator or (I think) framebuffer.
@felixp7 (#kbibs7q) Yes! now that we have Goryon finally on both upstairs and a half decent API plus several clients the biggest thing that we need to focus on now and something that I will personally struggle with his marketing, advocacy and expanding the network as these skills skills I donāt really have. on the bright side however there are in fact actually 10 different pods in existence today one of which we donāt actually manage or have anything to do with at all!
@prologic (#kbibs7q) Of course, and thatās why your approach is the right one for a change. Hopefully I can help with advocacy at least.
@felixp7 (#kbibs7q) yeah I actually like Lynx/ELinks/Links myself,
I only wish it understood some very basic CSS and how to render images. JavaScript in my opinion can just die or swift death š
@felixp7 (#kbibs7q) I assume your last statement is a good thing? In order for something to be generally and more openly useful I think it has to have a much wider target audience in my opinionā¦
@prologic (#kbibs7q) Lynx runs on frigginā DOS. Which by the way also has its own low-tech browser, Arachne, which is great and has never been ported to any other operating system far as I know.
@prologic (#kbibs7q) Your work gives me reason to be hopeful. But look how twt.social is succeeding: by taking a step back towards a system that doesnāt assume people have shell accounts on a tilde server and the knowledge to use them.
@felixp7 (#kbibs7q) how many of them are truly cross platform though? As-in can build from source and or run on more than just Linux.
@prologic (#kbibs7q) But we already have alternative, low-tech browsers! Lynx is actively maintained. So is Links 2 (while its fork ELinks is long-abandoned). Dillo had its last release a few years ago, but it could be revived. And NetSurf is still chasing a unicorn, but whatever. Theyāre still at it. All these only need more visibility and love.
@felixp7 (#kbibs7q) well the thing is about Twtxt I think in general it ran out of steam and enthusiasm waned across-the-board years ago back in 2016 only months after it was initially launched. I am however trying to revitalize it once again and get it to a point where it can become more useful to more people not just an inner circle of hackersā¦ whether or not we will actually succeed remains to be seenā¦ But we have a wonderful team behind everything that we have built so far š¤
@felixp7 @prologic (#kbibs7q) Truth is, most of these āgreat ideasā arenāt. Iāve heard it said that sometimes the wheel has to be reinvented. Iām yet to see a halfway decent example to support this thesis. Nope, mostly we suffer from the ānot invented hereā syndrome and/or we just want to fool around. People need reliability. Heck, even toys shouldnāt break.
@prologic (#kbibs7q) If this personal project of yours runs out of steam, thatās understandable and forgivable. Youāre just one person, doing what you love. But Gemini as a whole, or twtxt for that matter, is bigger than any one of us. If enthusiasm wanes across the board, that signals a real problem. And it happens all the time in our circles.
@felixp7 (#kbibs7q) so I just finished reading the blog post you linked, and if all of those references are true that is really disgusting Mozilla! The problem I have is that the Gopher and Gemini protocols whilst are of cost simpler they have course have their own sets of problems. Pros/Cons. The real solution IMHO here is for someone to write a decent cross platform web browser that a) doesnāt suck and b) works like the original web browser should have.
@felixp7 (#kbibs7q) why do you think that is? Why do you think these great ideas invented and or reinvented by hackers eventually run out of steam? even this project of mine runs the risk of running out of steam too, but I damn well am sure going to try to keep the level of effort and enthusiasm behind the project!
@felixp7 (#kbibs7q) I love Gemini, but itās already running out of steam again, only half a year after the last boost. Like all wheels reinvented by hackers.
@felixp7 (#dcielwq) Yeah youāre right! Thatās why itās such a shame to see yet another large tech giant corporation ruin yet another good piece of software and game (_ not that I ever played it myself_) #Minecraft #Microsoft
This, except I still donāt get why people so easily dismiss the web thatās still supported by text-based browsers: https://drewdevault.com/2020/10/22/Firefox-the-embarassment-of-FOSS.html
@prologic (#dcielwq) Minetest has been around for years, and itās not the only one. But people donāt want a clone. They want the brand theyāve become loyal to. They donāt play a game, they play a brand.
(#wbfecda) daamn. if a tire goes to the gym everyday, itād look like that
@dooven @kt84 (#wbfecda) Growing up in PNG (Papua New Guinea) Iām only familiar with these tyres! š·
(#wbfecda) @kt84 yeah they usually last pretty long! good investment and it makes me feel safe while driving icy roads
@local_wonders @dooven (#5dhxdva) but yes it does look gorgeous doesnāt it! š
@local_wonders @dooven (#5dhxdva) Damnit we need Conversation view in Goryon š
@off_grid_living (#i4kpona) the local produce store has turkeys! pass on to Mrs off_grid_living.
white girls and babies!!
@prologic (#wbfecda) I guess they just look ācoolā to me coz i paid so much for those damn things šš
They look like normal tyres to me? š¤